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Star Trek notes and nitpicks - Jason Lindquist
Idle ramblings of an idle mind
Star Trek notes and nitpicks
Spoilers after the cut...

  • What's Winona Kirk doing on board the Kelvin when she's about to pop, about a century before the Galaxy-class vessels and their family accomodations are built? It seems far more likely that George would be granted leave to return home for the birth, if any accomodation is made at all for a father. (Even in peacetime, many of our servicemen are not sent home for births.)
  • "Tiberius? No, that's the worst..." Funny.
  • Standard crew compliment for a Constitution-class ship is 430, ships built to be the largest ever. There's plenty of room for passengers for diplomatic and emergency purposes. Why are there in excess of 800 people on board Kelvin? I'm willing to buy a good reason, and even one that explains Winona Kirk's coincidental presence. I would've liked a quickie one-line explanation for that.
  • No problem with George Kirk being stuck on the Kelvin bridge. There's enough damage that the ship's computers, while capable of presenting information, are no longer capable of evaluating it and piloting itself. That ship needed to be flown around all that crap poking out of Narada.
  • Very different view of the shuttle bays than we've ever seen before. But it's cool, it's functional.
  • No problem with Narada being fantastically beweaponed. If the Romulans build a ship capable of boring down to a planet's core (with all the attendant damage,) they're not going to let anyone but their military operate it. It's going to be armed well. Nero's crew is then probably of the Romulan fleet, even if perhaps in some corps-of-engineers type subfleet.
  • But why do you need to drill to a planet's core to implant a singularity there? A black hole that starts on the planet's surface can still suck the whole damned thing in. I get it, it looks cool, and gives us a set piece to stage a fight on. But it wasn't necessary.
  • Having the technology to create a singularity is not a shock. Romulan ships in the TNG era use a captive artificial singularity as a power source. But running around with a meter-diameter SPHERE of a substance you ignite to create one seems really irresponsible, especially for Vulcans. What if that ship gets captured by Orion pirates?
  • The Vulcan school set, with its immersive holographic bowls, was pretty damned cool. No surprise that young Vulcan children are emotionally immature to want to fuck with Spock. Emotional mastery takes time. Very pleased to see he could lay the smack down. I'm not sure it would've been proper for Amanda to acknowledge "you should have seen the other kid". But I was sure thinking it.
  • The encounter with the VSA council had the proper "fuck you very much" quality. You're going to diss his parentage, he doesn't need your bullshit. But why Morgan Sheppard wasn't acknowledged in the credits is something I'd like to know. Very strange seeing him without some wild hairstyle (see: Rura Penthe warden in Star Trek VI, Blank Reg on Max Headroom.)
  • The boy Jimmy Kirk drives past in Iowa, played by Spencer Breslin, was at one time during production identified as George Samuel Kirk, Jr, Jim's older brother. There is no reason to change the name. "Oh shit, there goes my little brother starting shit again" works just fine.
  • I thought, "Fuck, that damned ring tone will STILL be in use in the 23rd century?!" The answer is, "yeah, probably." Nokia product placement. Cute. It makes sense that a rebellious young Jim would have problems with a stepfather.
  • Said stepfather being a collector... a 300-year old Corvette, with an aftermarket stereo loaded with music of similar vintage... I broke up laughing as I instantly recognized "Sabotage". Very very tempting to sing and shout along with it.
  • Because if I'm joyriding, running from the cops, that's on the playlist.
  • Why does a motorcycle cop need that full-face mask? That's just silly.
  • I would've carried the music video editing of the car chase just a LITTLE bit further, and clearly seen the car falling behind Jim, as Mike D. shouts, then the car crashes at the bottom as the shout fades.
  • "What's the problem, officer?" Little smart-ass... yeah, he's been here before.
  • Budweiser Classic? Product placement. :P
  • "Wow... you can whistle REALLY loud."
  • The relative service-times of the characters is really interesting... Spock is still most senior, Chekov and Sulu are junior officers, Uhura, McCoy, and Kirk not even out of the academy yet. Kirk would probably be more senior, except his now-fatherless upbringing leads him astray. I got the wrong impression from the trailers, that they would all be peers, and they aren't.
  • Spock calling the Kelvin's destruction a no-win scenario for George Kirk is dead wrong. His first aim wasn't survival, it was allowing his crew to safely evacuate. He accomplished that. He won. Even if the price was his own life. The Kobayashi Maru test is nowhere near the same. You don't rescue the ship in distress. You don't escape. You don't save your crew. You lose on every count. Except of course, Kirk doesn't believe you can ever have such a hopeless set of circumstances in the first place.
  • What the FUCK are all those antennas doing on the Kelvin bridge consoles? It looked like goddamned Ham Radio Outlet in there!
  • Interstellar-range matter transport is not a shock. The aliens employing Gary Seven had it.
  • Simon Pegg is Too Much Fun to watch in everything he's in.
  • Having to physically flip emitters to switch between lethal and nonlethal phaser settings is just fucking dumb. Changing color of some indicator lights with a sound effect would've been fine.
  • Pike in a wheelchair makes sense, not just because of the tip to his state in "The Menagerie" (TOS.) This movie's Ceti eel-analogue latched onto the brain stem. There's going to be some neurological damage. Hopefully they can heal it, even if it just takes time.
  • I really liked the way they presented Chris Pike. The role made a lot of sense, and casting Bruce Greenwood was perfect.
  • Stranding Kirk on Delta Vega doesn't seem ridiculous, if you lay the blame on the security thugs he got in the fight with in the bar in Iowa. However, dropping out of warp mid-crisis to do so is a really fat stretch. Just throw his ass in the brig.
  • Blowing up Vulcan took balls, man. I mean that about the writers, not Nero.
  • But what is the Vulcan High Council doing just hanging out in a cave? "Preserving Vulcan culture"? WTF? Weak.
  • The new bridge is just pretty. And Chekov cracks me up. Remaking him as an excitable 17-year old genius works. Cracking on his accent was a hoot.
  • Okay, he saved the planet. He's a hotshot with great potential. But still, you don't promote an academy cadet to Captain and hand him your flagship, Admiral Madea.

Current Music: Beastie Boys-Sabotage

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dannyman From: dannyman Date: May 11th, 2009 06:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
I thought the Iowa cop was an Android. Which I found a little disturbing for ethical reasons.

Also, if Old Spock comes back from 200 years in the future to vouch for the kid, explaining that in a better Universe it worked really dang well, you might give the young hot-shot command of your flagship.

It was a spectacular movie, yuppers.
jlindquist From: jlindquist Date: May 11th, 2009 07:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Also, if Old Spock comes back from 200 years in the future to vouch for the kid, explaining that in a better Universe it worked really dang well, you might give the young hot-shot command of your flagship.

I'm not convinced. Yes, the potential is absolutely there. But there's no substitute for experience, and the events of this movie are only a start.
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